Get ready to dive into the world of blockbuster movies as we discuss the highly anticipated June releases of The Flash and Transformers: Rise of the Beasts. We'll unravel the controversy surrounding The Flash, the drama that plagued its production, and the Ezra Miller issue that's got fans talking.
Sit back and enjoy as we examine The Flash in greater detail. From our thoughts on Zack Snyder's Justice League and the intriguing Barry Allen character to the banter between Bruce Wayne and Barry Allen, we're going to cover it all. And if you're a Transformers fan, we'll be discussing the well-done plot, thrilling action sequences, and how this latest film compares to Michael Bay's creations.
Lastly, we'll touch on the future of the DC extended universe and the fate of the upcoming Blue Beetle movie, discussing the need for a hard reboot of DC and the impact James Gunn could have on the project. For Transformers fans, we'll explore the interesting theory that Scourge is the Michael Bay universe version of Optimus Prime and the controversy around Wheeljack's design. Don't miss out on this action-packed episode filled with movie insights and discussions! If you enjoy our episode and want to keep up to date on future episodes, subscribe wherever you listen to your podcasts.
Get ready to dive into the world of blockbuster movies as we discuss the highly anticipated June releases of The Flash and Transformers: Rise of the Beasts. We'll unravel the controversy surrounding The Flash, the drama that plagued its production, and the Ezra Miller issue that's got fans talking.
Sit back and enjoy as we examine The Flash in greater detail. From our thoughts on Zack Snyder's Justice League and the intriguing Barry Allen character to the banter between Bruce Wayne and Barry Allen, we're going to cover it all. And if you're a Transformers fan, we'll be discussing the well-done plot, thrilling action sequences, and how this latest film compares to Michael Bay's creations.
Lastly, we'll touch on the future of the DC extended universe and the fate of the upcoming Blue Beetle movie, discussing the need for a hard reboot of DC and the impact James Gunn could have on the project. For Transformers fans, we'll explore the interesting theory that Scourge is the Michael Bay universe version of Optimus Prime and the controversy around Wheeljack's design. Don't miss out on this action-packed episode filled with movie insights and discussions! If you enjoy our episode and want to keep up to date on future episodes, subscribe wherever you listen to your podcasts.
Hey everyone, on today's episode of Stuck in the Phantom Zone, we're giving you part two of our June movie site discussion. We give our thoughts on the Flash and Transformers Rise of the Beast One movie riddled with controversy and drama, the other is a welcome back to the universe that established itself almost 16 years ago. Also, we'll be discussing heavy spoilers about each movie and also the end credit scenes. So you have been warned. If you enjoyed the discussion, please consider subscribing to keep up with future episodes. With that being said, i hope you guys enjoy the show. Alright, guys, let's move on. Let's move on to the Flash DC. This is this movie has been riddled with controversy. A galore man. Not only did this movie come out like this movie was announced what 10 years ago, it feels like multiple directors, multiple writers, outside distractions, with Ezra Miller, dc hierarchy, power struggle. We finally get this movie in theaters. So I'll start with you, neil. How did you feel about the movie? Did you, i guess, with expectations, wise? did you have a low bar? Did that meet the low bar?
Speaker 3:It's weird because when the whole power shift where it's like we're gonna, we're hiring James Gunn, and then this is already afterwards multiple DC projects were axed, they're not even releasing the Batgirl movie, even though they filmed the whole thing, and then more cancellations were being announced. Oh, we're not bringing about this director, we're not bringing back Cavill or whatnot. And my head I'm like Flash is definitely getting canceled because at the height of all this announcement, the Ezra Miller controversy is one after another after another. So I'm like this is definitely gonna be canceled. So I'm not gonna lie guys.
Speaker 3:I read a lot of the spoilers on Reddit. I was just like getting canceled? I don't see it. There's no possible way. But I'm assuming the reason why it still got made because they probably had I mean, they obviously already shot the scenes with Gal Gadot, you know, ben Affleck and Jason Mimo at the end. So they're probably just like contractually obligated, like they probably have something in their closures, like no, this movie hasn't get made because, or they have, they made this much money. So technically, these thoughts will be released.
Speaker 3:I don't know how it works, but I would say the spoilers are pretty close, except the ending, because I think they were reshot because James Gunn is going in a different direction. So going into it, it was weird. I kind of forgot a lot of the spoilers so it was a little bit fresh. I don't know if I'll go too much into the plot, but I would say I enjoyed it. Surprisingly, there are some small grabs as far as plot wise, character wise not really Like. I was shocked that Ezra Miller, like he made Flash likeable and annoying at the same time because he travels back in time. Obviously he's as young as self And he's like, oh shit, i haven't really this annoying. So he had to grow up and be the mentor and it showed him being mature now and dealing with his younger Flash. I think overall I would say it's not bad in my opinion. I don't know if I would call it in a great category, but I enjoyed it. Like would I watch it again? Yeah, i would watch it again.
Speaker 3:I did like a lot of the callbacks I did to Flashpoint. I did like seeing Michael Katen's Batman. I was a little nostalgic for me because I didn't realize how into it I was going to be about Michael Katen. I was already like, oh cool, he's coming back. This is awesome. But I didn't realize how excited I was. I think it was a nostalgic factory. The one time I've ever watched him is growing up watching movies on, like you know, tnt and FX, and always seeing the old school Batman's like appear there. So that's how I got familiar with Michael Katen's Batman. So I was like, oh man, i'm actually like digging this.
Speaker 3:I think the only thing that confused me was their explanation of time travel and multiverse. Oh, the spaghetti scene. And then like obviously you know, when they kept trying to fix the fixed point or the canon event, like what we use from Spider-Verse, like he tried fixing it over and over again, i'm like, wait, shouldn't there be like four of you guys now, because you traveled back 10 minutes before. I was getting a little confused at that point. But I'll be honest, though, like despite those little nitpicks and just as a movie, i enjoyed it And I will watch it again.
Speaker 3:I do only have one major break, though, and the fact that at the end, when he saw when he, when he decided to put things back in motion, like I have to come to my terms. I have to accept this. That happened in my life. Bruce Wayne was right, that flick was right. I need to. You know, just accept this and try to fix, at least the best you can, his timeline. I'm a little shot.
Speaker 3:He didn't go after the killer If it was turned out to be reverse flash or not, like that's. The only thing that shocked me was well, you solve, like you know, the issue of the timeline. But I was expecting something to happen because obviously, flashpoint he travels back in time to save his mom but he finds out, you know, reverse flash is there. So that kind of shot me where he didn't want to find out his killer or whatever. I don't know if this is just at the point where movies coming out, we just got to move it along. But the end my theory is I feel like when we saw George Clooney, i feel like that's a clever way to write out Ezra Biller and the. He's in his own universe now and the new DCU will continue on in a parallel pattern. That's just what I think, why they included George Clooney. That's just my take. Overall, i did enjoy it. I did like seeing Sasha Colley, a super girl. I was like damn man, it may miss Henry Cavill more.
Speaker 3:I was like dude man, bring back Henry Cavill. I don't know what's going to happen in Gal Gadot. I know like people have their their gripes I have my gripes too, some of the DCU stuff. But there's like so much moments potential where I'm like man, i want to see Henry Cavill, i want to see another, you know, see Gal Gadot come back. But yeah, it's just a weird feeling Like I don't think it was bad, i did enjoy it. I want to watch it again. It's just that ending where I'm like is he like, is he in a parallel universe now? so they can cleverly write off as a middleman? Yeah, so overall I did enjoy it. I'd need to watch it again to kind of take in some of the things that feel like a mist, the visual effects. That's the main thing I want to talk about too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's get. Let's get to that. How'd you feel about that man? I, that was like a major gripe with some some people.
Speaker 3:I didn't mind it, like I in, whether the whether or not I heard rumors and read things to same people like, oh, they just, they're just saying that because they rushed the artists or they were pressed for time. They just put out in a week. Whatever the reason is, i feel like it still works because it's like a stylistic choice. They're not trying to go for super realism. How it looked like you know how they did. What's his name? Evan Peters, his Quicksilver in the X-Men movies. Like it looks very different. You see, obviously the Flash TV show. But I don't think it was bad If I were to give any like notes that were weird was like the baby VFX in the beginning, maybe they could have done a better job.
Speaker 2:That's that was very the baby in the microwave.
Speaker 3:Like the baby faces, kind of look like they were old people at the same time.
Speaker 3:I don't know how to explain it. It was just like a little off to me. But overall, the rest of the visual effects, like they were fine, dude, I thought they were good. Like there, there were definitely a stylistic choice And I think that it works with this type of Flash movie. The cameos I guess we can get to that a little bit later from you guys' thoughts. I will say one thing about the cameos. I am very salty that they couldn't even use archival footage to show Grant Gustin's Flash. Yeah, But they chose to choose the actor who played Zoom as Jay Garrick in. Like, oh, they chose an actor from the from season two of the Flash that nobody remembers. You couldn't throw a bone to Grant Gustin because this he ended the Flash this year at the CW show. I was really salty. It was like where's Grant Gustin? Oh, cool, That's in the case. Super make great. Where's Grant Gustin? Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, no love for the CW universe, and I was like where's Grant Gustin?
Speaker 3:man?
Speaker 2:I mean they could have at least returned favorite because Ezra Miller did show up in the CW universe.
Speaker 3:That's what that was going to happen too. I was like, okay, where's Grant Gustin? Like oh sweet, because that scene was pretty cool. I know it was a little weird scene, like Adam Westby brought back, chris Irviesby brought back, but I didn't appreciate them just paying a match on them, which is good, yeah, yeah. But yeah, like, overall, i don't think it was great, i think it was good, i don't think it was bad. It was just a weird feeling just because of how the controversy Ezra Miller I think one of the reasons why it didn't make a lot of money, that being one of them But the main one is, i think the controversy caused them not to have an oppressor at all, so there was no advertising for it at all. People are like, oh, this comes out, oh, this comes on theaters, or this comes out at HBO Max, what's going on? Like there's people literally asking that question, like, yeah, so I think that's the main reason. There was no press tour.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how would you rate it out of 10? I'd rate it. Oh man, we got a hundred out of 10 from Spider-Verse, so let's get this back down to earth, okay.
Speaker 3:Do you want to rate it as just how it is as a movie, or how I felt about it?
Speaker 1:Oh damn. It makes those two numbers together and get the average.
Speaker 3:I would say a positive seven, but you just got to the seven Like. you just got like 6.99.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like I got to do a whole number.
Speaker 3:But I did enjoy it. Like I found myself liking the character moments. I don't really have too much nitpicks other than like the explaining of, like how the multiverse works and not seeing who the killer was, like not seeing if it's reverse flash or zoom or whoever. That's the only big thing. That kind of maybe would push it a higher grade. If we were to like get better closure, i would say So. I'll be honest, like I thought Ezra Miller was good, like in this one in a solo movie, like I know there's controversy around him, just as his performance. I'm like I thought he was good, i liked it actually. So Positive, seven Positive seven.
Speaker 1:Alright Arcee, let me get your thoughts on the flash. I know that. How many times did you watch it? Did you just watch it?
Speaker 2:one time. I'm going to see it twice. I'm going to see it a second time this week. Okay, cool.
Speaker 1:So so how well, give me your thoughts on the movie. And did some of the DC drama Ezra Miller stuff did that, did that kind of factor into how you were going to enjoy the movie, or you kind of just kind of let the movie speak for itself in regards to that?
Speaker 2:It's a little bit of both, because I know like the hierarchy of DC was changing. You know, earlier this year we had the end of the gun James Gunn trilogy and the end of his tenure at Marble And then the flash is kind of the beginning of the gun universe, of DC universe. But I don't know, there is a mixture of like. Like I agree, ezra Miller did like a really good job as a Barry Allen And I'm like man does that forgive all of you, all of your past mistakes, like that's. Like it's weighing on me because I'm just like I thought, like what he brought to the screen, like one. The flash is probably it's high on my list of favorite DC characters. I think green, green arrow and the flash have always been like my top, my top favorites. It fluctuates here and there, so I'm like man. I had just rewatched Zack Snyder's Justice League, you know. Forget the Josh Whedon Justice League, you know that's retarded Please forget it.
Speaker 2:And yeah, i was like what he brought and the Zack Snyder Justice League, especially in like the moments where he's really featured, is like okay, you're not quite the flash yet, you're on your way there, but you're not the Barry Allen and I know. And then I liked, or at least appreciated, that in this movie Barry Allen is much more established of the character that you know, even to the point where he's very familiar with the Justice League. Like he'll just like waltz into Bruce Wayne's manner, even if it's not even his Bruce Wayne, and he'll just be like, yeah, i'm going to go into your bad cape, all right, and I'm going to fiddle on your computer because, like you know, i'm best friends with. You know, my Batman, like this is, this is a Barry Allen as well established in this universe and with Justice League.
Speaker 2:And it felt like it felt like watching an old episode of Justice League on when I grew up, especially like the opening scene you know, never mind the term on on Kenny Valley of the babies and having a baby in the microwave. I thought that opening scene of the flash with him kind of bantering with Bruce Wayne and Alfred and trying to juggle saving everyone and trying to juggle personal life as well. I'm like okay you're you're hitting?
Speaker 2:you're hitting, like, the boxes of what a Barry Allen is. You're hitting the cannon events of like what Barry Allen is. Okay, he's always late. He's like I've never known him to be like the funny guy in in the comics and in the in the. Well, in the TV shows He's he's a bit of a funny guy.
Speaker 2:But yeah, like the first, like opening sequence of the flash felt like a Justice League episode, like the way Ben Affleck's Batman is his action scenes and they're bantered together. I'm like man, this is like you guys did it. I don't know how you guys, you know, made me feel like I was watching a Saturday morning cartoon again. You know, when it gets into like the whole metaphysics of like the flash is running in him going into the speed force. Yeah, i know they had to change the term from chrono ball And instead of using the cosmic treadmill, which probably doesn't sound as cool, they went with chrono ball and change everything into like this, almost like amphitheater, like setting.
Speaker 2:I didn't have a problem with the CGI too much when I saw it. I mean I understand that, like the director said, it was an artistic choice that, like some of the VFX look like they're un-rendered or unfinished. But like when, playstation 3 graphics, playstation 2, playstation 3 graphics, i heard all the jokes. Yeah, you know, i was still. I was still. You know, i felt a little emotion when I saw the Christopher Reeves Superman and Supergirl show up on screen. The Nick Cage Superman.
Speaker 2:I mean I looked bad, but it was just like, ok, this was a. This is a peek at what could have been, because I think, yeah, it was in. You know, it was one. I think Kevin Smith wrote the script, Kevin. Smith who was he pitched that one right Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think he pitched it and had the script written. I think, yeah, they were further enough along that. You know, nick Cage famously has that screen test with the actual suit, so to see that is like, oh, you know, there, what could have been is you could have gotten the Nick Cage Superman in another universe. But I did appreciate that they did kind of honor the film history of the DC from, like George Reeves, even like the Golden Age, like 1940s TV show, i guess, that George Reeves going in through, like you know, stretching throughout the media of the DC universe. I did wish they featured Grant Guston Somehow, some way, maybe in like the Flash director's cut which I hear they only had nine seasons of archival footage.
Speaker 3:I'm just I know.
Speaker 1:Apparently the crisis of Infinite Earth with the CW crew like right.
Speaker 2:But apparently the director said there is a director's cut that's four hours long.
Speaker 1:That I don't know. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:That features more cameos. So maybe they did shoot something with The machete cut released a machete cut I want to see that So many cameos But he did have a cameo.
Speaker 3:Did you guys know is machete had a cameo?
Speaker 2:He did? Yeah, the hot dog guy. But you know it's, it's a weird, it's a weird kind of what, if of? just like I know they said that the reverse flash did kill Nora, ken, or not. Well, nora, whatever.
Speaker 2:I'm like Nora Ken they did say like the yeah, the fourth. So maybe there was a way that, like if this flash did well at the box office, you would have gotten the flash to that would have featured the reverse flash. you know that and I do agree with you, Neil, that like him being it, like when they featured the George Clooney's Batman, I think that's a way of just writing off Ezra Miller. He's not in his universe, He's in a very adjacent, very close universe In the DC you were seeing right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like that spaghetti strand, or like they're interlocked with each other.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like they're not gonna cross, but they're like flowing next to each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah you still got your momoa, because you still got your, i'm sure, diana Prince's song. You still have all your characters You just like, because you spoiler moved a can of tomato sauce to a top shelf. George Clooney You get George Clooney, which is like okay cool.
Speaker 1:What kind of metaphor is that? right, it's like. So if I put it in the middle shelf, do I get a.
Speaker 3:Val Kilmer.
Speaker 2:Val Kilmer, Young Adam West how do y'all do this Cause, like dang man, I should have put the store brand up on the top shelf and the name brand. I don't know. Who knows what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3:I was like that was an interesting one. Yeah, let me ask you guys this. really good, What do you guys thought about that? George Clooney Like I'll go with the ERC first, but what did you guys thought about that ending, though? That shocked me. I was just like what?
Speaker 2:That shocked me? because I had seen the behind the scene photos. Like you know, paparazzi photos had seen Michael Keaton's Batman. Like you know, george Clooney is wearing the same suit that Michael Keaton was seen wearing. So they did shoot it and they did shoot a scene with Supergirl coming down to meet Barry, you know. So you know he's still. I think they had established that Supergirl was gonna be the super human of that like time, like Henry Cavill, I think, was gone, and then so Supergirl was gonna take over Superman.
Speaker 2:And then I'm hearing now that, if you know, if they had gone with Michael Keaton, there was a Batman Beyond movie in the works, which now they're not gonna do anymore. Terry McGinnis man. Yeah, there was gonna be like a Terry McGinnis or was gonna be a future Batman. So we were gonna get more Michael Keaton Batman. But I think they had to like okay, this is the end of the Snyder vision of the Flash. Now we have to introduce James Gunn's vision. So we have to write you out somehow. So the Flash lives on, but he's in a different spaghetti strand. Yeah, it's just like man. What could have been? I wish like I would what. I'm just happy to have more Michael Keaton, batman. Honestly God, i was here for Batman. This is a Batman movie featuring the Flash.
Speaker 1:For me, I was not here for it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but like I had seen so many behind scene photos, like oh yeah, we're gonna get Michael Keaton in this scene, when he and then like yeah, i think it was like last minute that they wrote in George Clooney, which is like it shocked me because I was like holy crap where's Michael Keaton?
Speaker 3:Maybe those that was the reshoot they were referring to then.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i think it was like super last minute, so I don't know. But anyway, i'm just. I'm here for Batman. I don't want to talk about Batman. Let's get nuts, let's get nuts.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he said that in the like oh gee, movies too, that's cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cause I love 1989 Batman. He's definitely like one of my favorite Batman of the iterations of Batman that have been through DC. So I was excited to get I don't care if it was like an extra five minutes, if it was just straight up Batman kicking butt. I was like you know what We were never going to see any more. Michael Keaton's that hand. He just gave us more. I'm just like, oh, dude, and you know what he delivered was just glorious. I mean from him and the whole like Russia scene. And I mean I got nostalgic when Barry the younger Barry's like in front of the old Batmobile and he's like is this where I think it is? They like they uncovered it. I was like, oh, the Batmobile.
Speaker 3:Dude, he fell asleep in the turkeys. Yeah, I was like you, don't do that to the Batmobile?
Speaker 2:You don't do that Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then like the Batwing coming down from the ceiling and, oh my God, it was glorious. But then to see Michael Keaton's Batman in action I know it's not him in there, but I'm like dude, this Bruce Wayne still got it. Even when he's like fighting a Kryptonian alien one-on-one and just like placing bombs all over him. He's like dude, that is my Batman. Yeah, yeah, Batman would do that, even though he has no chance. And he's like that Kryptonian alien is like taking out tanks and soldiers left and right, like the fact that he would go head first with like homemade bombs And like you know, it hurt me so bad. When he got slammed on that ground He was like dang, that's how you go out.
Speaker 1:And then like I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2:I got emotional when, like Barry's holding a dying Batman And he's like I can't save you this time, like you know cause like they want to go back and like prevent him from dying and all that. But Barry knows like if he does that he's just gonna screw up the timeline even more. And Batman recognizes that And he's like I can't save you this time And Batman's like you already did, you already did Like or something like that, and I was like I can't bring you back this time And like Batman is like you already did, i'm like dude.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, i had so much emotion.
Speaker 3:It seemed like that universe, or like the new, that universe, that Barry time travel back to like Batman, or like Michael King's Batman, like he like cleaned up Gotham to a point where, like, oh, you don't need me, this sucks Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like he is. He had fulfilled his goal where he's just like yeah, the Gotham city is now the safest city And in the country it's like my mission is over So I'm just gonna retire and eat spaghetti all day. Yeah, What do you think, man?
Speaker 3:What do you?
Speaker 1:think man. So going back to your latest question in regards to the cameo Oh, the Clooney. I like George Clooney, clooney's great, but this should have been the opportunity to have Christian Bale just do one scene as Bruce Wayne, like.
Speaker 2:I'm just like, Oh cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i didn't think about that, cause I'm like how many clue how many, how many fans are like Clooney Batman fans?
Speaker 2:There's a lot of like. I know, i was just like.
Speaker 1:I was like man, like people either grew up with Keaton, Batman and Christian Bale. Batman, You know Dark Knight, one of the best trilogies. You know Batman trilogies of all time. They should have had they. They had to. Just I hope they had conversation with them And he just was like nah, i'm a Nolan guy like F y'all, i ain't doing, i ain't doing your stuff. But I would have loved to see Christian Bale as the one who who met with Barry. So okay, so, going overall with the movie, i really enjoyed it. It was, you know, it's it. It was a really good movie. I it's one of the best movies that DC's put out in a while. Not saying that it's great, cause the bar of DC is like just, i just want to talk good about it for for a while before everyone like craps on it. And you know the. You know the last, what was the last DC movie you got was Black Adam, right, black Adam, yeah.
Speaker 3:Shazam 2 and Suicide Squad And I think that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't know if that like how the series.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's, it's been a while since we've had some, some good DC content And yeah, i, i enjoyed it a lot. Like Ezra Miller, you know he had a tough task of actually playing two different types of berries And he nailed it, man. Like you know, they were referencing a lot of Back to the Future part two And I was just like, all right, we get it Back to the Future part two, eric Stoltz. So I was like, okay, michael J Fox, michael J Fox, like it was. It was kind of cool. They added that layer on top of it, just cause it was like we know what we're doing, we're just going to double down on it. So I enjoyed that. Like you know, as much as Ezra Miller has done some pretty crazy stuff in real life. He portrays a pretty great Barry Allen, like, again, rc were talking about that opening scene. That was, you know, again, that was right off the the animated TV show. And, like the CGI, like I, i felt like you know that again, they did that on purpose. I felt that it was. It was kind of cool that they showed something different, cause you know, we've had all these speedsters throughout the movies And it's just a really I think it's just Muscaddi's take on just how the flash would, how you would see the flash from his point of view, like it wouldn't even be like a perfect human, it'd almost be like almost like you know it's moving as fast as he is in regards to like a baby falling And he's probably seeing something, like you know, with the visual effects there. That that was a. You know, that was pretty cool, like I was. Just I was kind of like I heard about the visual effects before I was watching and I was like, all right, let's see. It's a $200 million budget movie. I'm like, all right, let's, let's see how it goes. And I think it just worked well with it.
Speaker 1:Sasha Calle as Supergirl. I really enjoyed it. It was just kind of like it was a nice. It was a nice change up from, like you know, with the flash kind of just talking his mouth off Pretty much the whole movie. And Sasha Calle was super like just just, you know she said very few words but she had a presence and she was just like you know she I mean she just got out of a pod. She's been stuck in for how long you know, and it's just she's just trying to re get reacquainted with everything. So I don't expect her to just start, like you know, talking and just being all that. So I like the choice that. I like the way they portrayed Kara, cause it's a different Kara that we see, that we've seen. You know, for that character And my Keegan Batman.
Speaker 1:He's one of my favorite parts of the movie, you know he had he brought that nostalgia. I really liked the jet that he had in the final scene where it kept spinning And I was just he just kept like when that alien was on the plane he just kept spinning it And I was like, dude, you're not going to get it out, man, it's freaking Kryptonian Like, but it was just funny, he just kept trying. He's like I gotta do this. But but yeah, man, i I enjoyed the movie. It was, there were some parts of it. I was just kind of like I just had to let it go. You know, with the whole chrono bowl and you know the reveal that that that purple flash looking thing was actually, you know, younger buried, just kept going Like it's, it's it's thing where it just kept going.
Speaker 3:What'd you think of the CGI, of the whole like chrono bowl thing?
Speaker 1:I thought it was okay, like I know that it would probably cost money to kind, of, kind of show every single thing over and over Cause they kept going to it at different parts of the movie.
Speaker 1:But I had no problem with it. You know, they kind of made up for it when the multi versus kind of shadowy, saw little clips and stuff like that And and yeah, like I was kind of one of my, one of my little one of my grabs with it is that they made the kind of like the canon moment for flash and that and that thing about Supergirl and Batman. If they kept dying, that's, that's this, that's the stopping. Like you you can't fix that, that'll always happen. I'm just like I mean, i kind of wish it was a different moment, like going back to across spiders for a second.
Speaker 1:But you know, uncle Ben's moment Uncle Ben is the moment for Spider-Man And for Barry Allen, it's saving his it's. You know that moment when his mom got killed and he had to protect his dad. So I was kind of hoping they would kind of give a canon moment that kind of reflects his origin, of what he came, because it kind of was like, kind of was like all right, these are two characters you've just met. Like they don't have the kind of gravitas in regards to who you are as a person, then you know fighting so hard to find a killer and also save your dad from going to jail or trying to find evidence to make your dad innocent and get him out of jail and stuff. So I was kind of hoping there was a different. I kind of wish they kind of did a different canon moment. Maybe that was part of the plan, maybe you know they had so many reshoots And I think that was one of the problems with this movie is that we don't know what the full version is. We don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, four hours.
Speaker 1:Like we don't know what could have been. This is a very much a what if movie, and it's not because of the story, it's because of the outside forces that kind of turned this into, you know, a what if movie. Because if we kind of kept the same regime with, like, walter Amada and all that like, i wonder what they would have set up. I generally believe that their reverse flash was going to be in that movie, like, and we were going to continue with flash two for them to find, for him to find you know reverse flash and have that fight. But it just kind of just felt as much as I enjoyed it. It's very much just kind of a lull at the end.
Speaker 2:They should have done like the comic book but, like editors know, like they had a little asterisk For more, watch season one through nine of the last.
Speaker 1:I know, dude, no love man, no love procedure, no love procedure Like.
Speaker 3:I said I mean the movie could have been perfect or it could have been absolutely garbage. The fact they didn't even try, dude, not even try, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was kind of crazy how man you had I guess part of the outside forces man You had Stephen King saying this was one of the greatest superhero movies of all time. You had Tom Cruise saying this is.
Speaker 3:That was strange.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they had all these celebrities.
Speaker 3:Stephen King. I saw that, like when you mentioned that. I'm like, what are you talking about, Stephen? And then I looked, I Googled it. Like there's so many A-listers, dude, Yeah, They're saying like see this movie, Yeah, And I don't know if that hurt even more, I don't know. But it's just I'm like wait Tom Cruise, Wait what?
Speaker 1:And this was like months before the movie, Like Tom Cruise saying this is the movie that we need right now. I'm like what? I thought it was your own movies, Mission Impossible is not the movie you need right now. So I was just kind of like you know, I could go on, You know the A-list celebrities getting on this movie like it's you know, the greatest movie. You have all these showings way before the actual date of the movie, Like I think maybe people already saw it, like in February, So they already, like they had all these fan screenings throughout, you know, before hand. So it felt like-.
Speaker 3:Advertising too. Like no advertising or press tour, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then you have again. you have the DC drama. you know James Gunn and all this Ezra Miller stuff. It's kind of I'm kind of not surprised that this movie is doing bad in the box office just because it's been so long for them to try to make this movie happen and put this movie into theaters. It just kind of they kind of dig their own grave in regards to that. As much as I enjoyed the movie, it just becomes another DC movie that will just remember five, 10 years from now, like oh hey, they made a flash movie. It's actually pretty good, did it lead?
Speaker 2:to something.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it was good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and yeah, i just you know it's cool to see a flash movie, but it's kind of like man, we just you know, us fans, we want that cohesiveness, we want that what's next And to get a Arthur Curry drunk as hell on a puddle as our end credit scene is kind of like like just don't even do it. Yeah, Like whatever money you had to shoot for that, like you should have put it towards something else Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think for that end credit scene. I think you know how normal end credit scenes are, like oh, this is going to lead to something else. Well, i'm like okay, i think they're really establishing like this is the end of the Snyderverse. That like so, here's your send off. Here's Arthur Curry trying to swim in DC, yeah, dcu. Yeah, this is the.
Speaker 3:And the end of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think they're really establishing that this is the stopping point for at least these characters And I hope they continue on in some iteration at some point.
Speaker 3:I mean but To like you guys said like the Justice League part. In the beginning I'm not going to lie I was like after that scene, i think that was like these actors, this scene, they work so well together. Just bring back Cavill, bring back Cyborg. I'm just like, oh, what could have been? Like oh man, i'm like damn, i know like people have their opinions on that athlete as Batman, but I think he does a good job And he works well with his team and like him, kind of sort of being a mentor to Barry a little bit. In the beginning I was just like man. It kind of made me mad. I was like what could have been? like I know James Den, like I trust he's going to have like a process And I get the reasons why you want to act some actors and directors off. I get it. But at the same time, like the potential was so there. Warner Brothers had to. You know their greedy hands on it, man, come on Yeah man, warner Brothers and Dwayne Rock Johnson.
Speaker 1:The hierarchy of DC is changing, not with me, though.
Speaker 3:Dude, i remember I think you were like we're joking about it one day, steven, you like you kind of assess them about, like when someone else is like achievement happens the Rocks like we did it, guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah we did it, he did that with. FastX too. man, He did that with FastX.
Speaker 2:You know, he had a lot of things like dude, i love to thank you fans.
Speaker 1:You guys brought me back. You guys just brought me back And you know me and Ben. We just had a conversation and it was you guys. It was We did it, guys. I know we did it. You guys have been with me there every step of the way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not because Family, family, am I right? Am I right? It's not because of my.
Speaker 1:Black Adam performance. because the box office bond It's not like because I lost to a director. Yeah, because of y'all that I'm here Not because of my shortcomings with the XFL. It's because of because of y'all.
Speaker 3:I'm not going to lie, dude, His XFL stuff is doing a little bit better than expected. I was just like wow.
Speaker 1:I saw a report that he he lost like $50 million doing it.
Speaker 3:Well, I didn't say financially, Steve, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all the product on the field is good, like, yeah, it is, but financially you brought me back.
Speaker 2:You guys brought me back. He's like I need that fast X money to recombinate myself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i mean Vin Diesel and the Rock are like almost like you know, you know how the flash scene where it's like the world were colliding, the Rock and Vin are like getting kind of close, where they're like almost diverging a little bit, because it's like It fuse into one mind.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the.
Speaker 1:Rock is trying to find, like you know, his next franchise.
Speaker 2:It's like arms.
Speaker 1:It's like arms race between Vin and the Rock is like all right, I'm a lock in for this movie.
Speaker 3:It wasn't like the. I know we're talking about it a little bit, but wasn't like. the reason why they brought him back is that they're going to propel him into like his own, like Hobbs and I don't know if they'll do shot to you but his own Hobbs universe, like oh right, the fast universe. like the actors are done, now We're moving on, but Dwayne Johnson is universe. He's still continuing.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, i think so, man. OK yeah, i think that's the only way he would have signed on to that movie.
Speaker 3:He's like well, i'm not, is like I'm not doing Black Adam guy. So yeah, i'll go ahead and you know what? Hobbs sounds pretty sweet, i'll do that, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, man, it was I don't know man like going back to DC, like All right, let me, i'll ask you, stephen, let me ask you this way because you're like, you are like I know we're all both from Marvel, dc, but you particularly are more of the DC fan, the DC reader. So, as like our resident DC, like head, how do you feel, like, what is your thoughts about the future? Not necessarily like, maybe, what you think about James again too, but like like overall, like now we talked about before in another episode, but going forward now, after seeing the flash, it's kind of the end of everything. Now we're about to stress the new, like, what are your thoughts Now? how do you feel about you know your optimism towards it? Are you? you feel skeptical, or it's like I feel a tiny bit fatigued because I just want a fresh breath of air, something new, something good, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel like there needs to be a reboot, like a hard, hard, hard. Okay, I see Hard reboot.
Speaker 3:I'm like no parallel, like oh, this kind of is happening.
Speaker 2:No, I'm a multiverse stories, no multiverse stories.
Speaker 1:First of all, if I'm James Gunn, i mean I'm already like kind of like oh shit, i just kind of put my, my fucking name on this movie and what 55 million opening weekend. And I'm like oh, it's only 55. Yeah, it's only 55 million. Oh no, like I was, I was shocked when I saw the transformers did better on its second week Damn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh no, i feel like the DC brand is like it's, it's, there's too much baggage with it right now. Yeah, and man, what I would do is blue beetle, whatever is on the slate for the rest of the year. I think the movie is coming up. You put it on Max and just say, hey, let's just put on Max, because if you put it in theaters and you get, the turnout is even lower. Yeah for that movie, which you know it's expected, it's blue beetle. Like we haven't had any cameos or anything like that. Yeah, with blue beetle. So I would treat it like like you know how Star Wars is doing right now. They're kind of taking a hard break, nothing, right now Yeah.
Speaker 1:And take like two years. All right, kind of do a clean slate on all DC, just kind of work on your projects. Two thousand twenty five will come out with Superman. Just start there, because there's too much DC content coming out right now and people are just not into it. You know, and I'm into it, i love DC.
Speaker 1:I would love to see a blue beetle movie, but the more that people are seeing these movies and like, oh dude, they're making a blue beetle movie, like obviously that's not what fans want. Fans want more Batman, more Joker, more Superman movie and they just want recognizable characters. We didn't need a Black Adam movie. We didn't need I like Shazam, but we didn't need a Shazam movie. Like we got to start from the core and then work our way out And it just seems like they've just been digging their own grave by doing these decisions that are just not.
Speaker 1:They're just not. It's common sense. People just look at the comics of what like sells the most. If Batman sells the most, just keep putting out Batman stuff. People be eating that stuff up And it's just a trust factor. A lot of people. They just don't trust DC anymore because they're more known about their gossip now than actually their content. We can have a little short clips of Henry Kaville or all that and get us excited about something, but most of the time they've just been kind of a dud. Yeah, it's tough being DC fan, even after this Flash movie, which I really enjoyed.
Speaker 2:It's just like what comes up, what's after that, you know and yeah, yeah, because it's like I agree with you, like I think you should put blue beat on Max, because right now I think Max is hemorrhaging viewers and money and all that. I think they even said Warner Brothers is selling already 50% of Max. I think they're selling off the like TV stuff.
Speaker 1:Like a lot of TV and a lot of.
Speaker 2:TV and music rights.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:From from Max, just so they can come back, come back to level again And I'm just like, yeah, i would agree If you're, if you want to try to save your like I don't know how Blue Beetle is going to go, because this is a blue Beatles. The official start of the gun run of DC, like it's the first. It's the first of his, his run. I was a blue beetle, i mean.
Speaker 3:I know, ok, now. Now I see HBO Max has put on Max, come on, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But I know I mean. But James Gunn has been known to take unknown characters and make them like relevant to the model.
Speaker 3:So wait, is Bill Bleedle. Is that actually the official like start of gun or was it already in like production before I?
Speaker 2:think this is. I think this is going to be the first one with his name on, like he has a statement of approval. This is the part of the universe. Ok, i see, yeah, and then, but like the next one in line, i think it's like creature commandos, which is well, they still have Aquaman 2 coming out of December but they said like test screenings for Aquaman have been like horrendous.
Speaker 1:No, please, yeah Give us a shot.
Speaker 2:Just put on Max.
Speaker 1:No Max.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's why it's been delayed this long, because they're like, ok, they're going to reshoot the heck out of it or so. So, yeah, i don't know, but like, hopefully. I mean, i'm like I don't know much about Blue Beetle, but I hope it does Successfully, looks fun and all that. But are you going to hinge the future of your company on an unknown character? Or you could have used just like, yeah, did your your prominent name Superman, batman, wonder Woman, like people who, people who are already like, integrated with those characters a lot.
Speaker 1:Yes, it just feels like we have to start over again. You know we're saying goodbye to Batfleck. Gal Gadot is Wonder Woman. We just had them for like a couple of years. Like when did, when did Wonder Woman come out? Like what twenty?
Speaker 1:Twenty seventeen, twenty seventeen, those only six years She only had two movies. Two movies, well, two solo movies, and then another Justice League, justice League movie. We really haven't had a lot of exposure to some of these. This Justice League, you know, and, and then now we have to start over. Now we're casting New Superman, you know we're getting Robert Pattinson Batman. We don't even know if that is.
Speaker 1:It's just a. It's just a lot of like different things And it's just. You know, people want to be centered on one thing Like what's the end? Like what is the DCU? Like what? like you know, it's a pipe dream now that that we get that DC can get the Marvel. It's like it's not even there are different, you know, different stratosphere, they're not even the same universe. But it's like Like DC just needs I feel like they just need to take a break, man. Like just just not have DC drama for two years, just be on the download. Don't even like just work on the projects that you think will make money, like Superman, batman, all that stuff, and just you know, just because the, the brand is, the brand is solid, It's it's. It's not a brand you can trust.
Speaker 2:It's like you just like, ok, if I go to Marvel, i know I'm getting a certain product, even though, like you, might get some Ant-Man threes, it's still a quality product. But, like you know, if you go to go to Warner Brothers, it's like, yeah, your trust is not, is not fully there, it's on, it's on shaky foundations right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, And then James Gunn is doing a Superman movie And if I see a Superman movie go under, like I know, box office, it means a lot to the, to the studios, because you know that generates interest and also you can make a sequel. So I mean, i don't know why Blue Beetle is the official, like start of the like. It's just kind of like why, like I would understand if he kind of set the chain off like I don't know Blue Beetle is like and they're not even using, like Ted Court, it's Jaime Reyes, which I'm like Ted Court would be kind of like like a Hank Pym type thing, where it's like, ok, maybe he sets a chain of events that kind of start to start you know the DCU. But we're talking with Jaime Reyes who's, like you know, peter Parker type. You know, yeah, and this is like you're going to, you're going to bank on this kid to kind of start the DCU. I'm so dumb Yeah.
Speaker 3:I like a general, general like assumption for Blue Beetle is that it, even though it's going to be started like James Gunn's like official slate, it probably won't even have like and like future announced or like is there going to be Easter eggs? that shows what's going to happen next. It might just be its own thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Wonder Woman's not going to show up one day, just like you know you don't see like in the background TV news, like, oh, like Superman, you know, saves whatever, like it'll just seem like it's. it'll be in the universe, obviously, but it'll just be like its own thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, all right, well, that's okay.
Speaker 3:We can't let. No, steve, yeah, yeah, i mean, you know, i know it's not our fault right.
Speaker 1:It's damn it's, it's the Warner Brothers. You know, brass, the whole whole shake ups, man, they can't. They can't keep their executives in order, they can't, you know, can't keep their actors in order, like it's too greedy man They think they're.
Speaker 3:they know everything about the comic books. You know, comics industry and the fans.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and, and you know what. You know another thing that that DC did. Man, all the Stephen King, i don't believe anything he says now, like you know that's fair.
Speaker 3:That's fair And directly.
Speaker 1:I'm like Stephen King whatever you promote, i am hesitant. now, one of the great writers of our time says a movie is awesome. I'm like cool.
Speaker 3:There was another one. If you reached out to Stephen King, I'm like cool, Oh man, I got to find what it was There was. There was another thing similar that he said This movie is great. It wasn't like comic related, But he's like, yeah, this movie is great and Bob's in the box.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not a good track, Not a good start. You basically saw celebrities.
Speaker 2:Maybe you saw like the four hour cut. Oh, this was this wasn't what I saw, guys.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you man, dc did the worst job of doing all this. Snyder cut, air cut. Like, yeah, this is like that was like the worst thing that could possibly happen, because that's how fans are so divided. Now He's like, oh, we even see the real thing. There's a six hour cut. And I'm like, and then fans just start fighting. Like DC, fans are just divisive man. Like you got your Sax Snyder fans, you got your James Gunn fans, you got your David Ayer fans, and just, they just don't get along. Like they just won't get along, they'll just, they'll just keep, you know, shouting at a wall.
Speaker 1:Yeah, until until somebody does something, and you know it's just kind of like.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like gaslighting people like, oh, there must be a director's cut somewhere. I'm like, no, sometimes there's not a director's cut. Maybe this is the actual vision of director and all that, but it's yeah, it's.
Speaker 3:It's made people believe that there's other stuff. Yeah me see all these movies come out where it's like, oh, it's bad, but you don't know if that was the real cut or not. So don't, don't, don't read, don't take those reviews as serious. I was like, well, the whole world says it's bad.
Speaker 1:I know It's like, do I really want to sit through another hour and a half of what I already thought at two hours and 30 minutes was bad? Like, yeah, time is time is very precious And I'd rather not. I'd rather not do that, all right, so we'll, we'll we'll end it all flashed there and we'll we'll go into something unexpectedly fun. I really like this Transformers Rise of the Beast movie. So, neil, i am, i am the DC guy. I'm going to take you to the Transformers guy. How did it feel to go back to the universe, man? Like it's been what? three wait, how many years? since Bumblebee, that was the last one, right, 2018, but it'll be came out.
Speaker 1:So what so?
Speaker 3:five years, Yeah, and it's in the same universe. Um, I, I love the movie. It's not perfect And even like the nitpicks I have with it when I compare it to the awful things that I didn't like about the Baeverse stuff, it makes it look like gold. That's how, like, even like some, like I think okay, let's just like go for the overall plot. Like what I thought about it. I thought the plot was good, I thought it was smart because they actually took stuff from previous TV or previous animated shows, slash, um, some aspects from the novels in the comics. They took some aspects from there and they pushed it and obviously the G1 cartoon and they pushed it forward into this movie. Like they combined the right elements, They told the right stories. They actually, instead of like, Oh hey, this character is from G1. Let's just throw them in here without doing any research for anything, Let's just throw it in there. Here's shockwave, guys, It's cool, right, You guys like it, It's fun. But, um, they, the way they did this movie in the nineties, having it be a sequel to bumblebee, because bumblebee is like a late eighties movie And I recommend watching the bubble movie, guys, If you like eighties movies.
Speaker 3:It feels like the director for that movie. He said he for the bumblebee movie. He said he wanted it to feel like this belong in the eighties, like all the cheesy campioness you would see in some feel good eighties movies. It has the same aspects in the movie but with, like modern CGI. So, um, that's a good it was.
Speaker 3:That is a good movie because it's a really good palette cleanser from the mindless action from Michael Bay's movies, and not saying they're, you know his cinematography is great, but just all the mindless action and the awful writing is just like a good palette cleanser. Then you go into this movie where it sets the bar right, the right tone, the right amount of action. Story is, you know, at best, sure, decent, but you needed to be coherent compared to how it was. The last two transformers, these four and five, And uh, like I have very few nitpicks maybe like a couple of two, couple one or two like one liners might have been like okay, whatever, but it's not a big deal because it's not like I'm seeing constructed con, you know, genitals from the second movie, or John Tatoro's bare ass in the fifth movie.
Speaker 3:So um, yeah, like when you compare it to that, i I'm really happy how this movie went. I love the action, i love the designs, um, i love how they include. The maximum is how they told that story. It's very similar to how, um, things happen in one of the the Netflix animated show for transformers And, uh, the only real nitpick I have is that they didn't flat out it was more um, it was more played on. They didn't flat out say like, oh, we times, we we travel back in time because we were, we were forced to be sent out. We didn't have control of it. We don't know how this, you know artifact works. But you know, i was named after you opt in this prime because you're the greatest transformer and not just Autobot that ever lived. Um, they didn't really talk about it. It's more hinted on and accepted. I just wish they kind of just flat out said it just because it feels it would feel more concrete instead of just vague. But even then that you kind of just got. I got over that pretty quickly and just enjoy the action.
Speaker 3:The humans in this movie were pretty decent. I really liked the performance, um, by all of them, actually just because they they felt they had a purpose. Sure, some of the writing might have been a little bit spotty here and there, but nothing. Like I said, when you compare it to how we've gotten the last few movies, it's, it's, it's really good. Um, yeah, i recommend it. Actions good. Uh, if you want, just, and it's only an hour and 30 minutes, it's your in and your out. You're like that was really good. I could watch it again. It's not two hours and 50 minutes of just like when it's just going to be over. Um, the CGI is good. The CGI is great. The music choice too. I would never thought I would watch a Transformers movie open up with Wu Tang clan's cream. I was like whoa, this is, this is, this is pretty epic. Um, but yeah, i enjoyed it. The actions good. And the to set up at the end. You know Gio Joe exists in this universe. I'm just like whoa, i wasn't expecting that, but I'm here for it. So, uh, i don't know what the plans are in the future, um, but going forward, i think they're in the right hands with this director.
Speaker 3:My only concern, though, is the producer for these movies. I forgot how to say his name, but I feel like he's the only guy that he he screams Warner Brothers exec to me and he's the only guy that can ruin it. I'm just very worried cause everyone says this is a reboot, which is fine, but he's the only guy that says no, it's a prequel, guys, no, no, listen to me, it's a prequel. I'm just like no man. Like don't ruin this for people. Like people are going to the theater to watch this movie and they're excited about it. So that's my only concern is this producer I forgot his name, which is good. I just he's the only concern, cause he is like so hardcore, beaten down the path of like I need this to be part of the Bayverse.
Speaker 3:This is, this is not a reboot, guys. Like no, it is dude. If you'd wanted to not be a reboot, then you're going. No one's going to watch these movies. So everything's good. Voice acting was good. Yeah, i don't know what else to say more about it, except it's. It's really nice. Short action, or timeline wise, or time length wise. It's only an hour and 30, which shocked me. I was just like whoa, so get in, get out, you'll feel good and it makes you want to watch it again. So I gave it. It's not perfect. I'll say that's not perfect, but for setting the bar of transform movies. This is like where it's at right now And yeah, it's just, it's just really fun.
Speaker 1:What's the? what's the rating man? What's what?
Speaker 3:I gave it like 6 million. Okay, okay, much of the transformers. I can't say that it's the 10 out of 10. As far as like appealing to what I would love to see out of a movie. As far as some of the nitpicks and some of the, like you know, plot plot holes I saw and there weren't many at all, really It's more like a few things that I wish they could have just said I would give it a, a it just it just got to the eighth, steven. It just got to the eighth, okay, good, good, all right. I don't know if it's a nine out of 10, but I would say it's a strong eight. It's a strong eight, but my heart says it's a 10, but if I realistically that break it down, it's like out of eight.
Speaker 1:We'll take the 10 out of 10. Coming from a transformers guy, you know, and you know we've had a lot of transformers movies and to hear you actually say like, hey, we're back, you know, this is the type of vibe and the future is bright for for this franchise that we've. You know that we've been with what? for almost a decade or more.
Speaker 3:You know a little bit more with the live act. Yeah, almost two decades out, because, yeah, 2007.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Yeah. So, um, yeah, that's. That's really great to hear. that was kind of like my takeaway.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I do have one. I'll get to it after you hear what you guys thought about it. but there is one like interesting theory that kind of does tie the beavers. that would make sense to kind of propel it in a, in a reboot, If that makes sense like days of future, past, like how I would just say like that Was Michael Bay a producer on?
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was a producer and he and he like how he gave the directors blessing and like like, oh, if you want to be a reboot, like that's cool, like. But those, those producers like no man, this is a prequel. It's like Michael Bay doesn't care, he's just happy that people are watching this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so. So, rc, how, how'd you feel about the movie?
Speaker 2:So this movie was more nostalgic for me, not just because it was set in the nineties but, like I, when I was growing up and before I would go to school, i would watch Beast Wars on on on TV before going to school. So I was excited that the Maximals were coming in because, like that, those were my transformers, like I knew. I've I've come in contact with like transformers previously, like with the, you know, with Optimus and all that. But I really grew up around Beast Wars. So I was happy to see Rhinox and Cheetor and I was hoping that Rat Trap would would show us in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i was like I just wanted to hear them say, like I just wanted to hear the, the, the were the, the, the Terracons.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I just wanted to hear them say like Terracons, terraris.
Speaker 3:That was the name when they when they transformed and.
Speaker 2:But you know, rhinox was like my favorite of the the Maximals growing up And I was like, even though I don't even think he said anything, I was like dude we have.
Speaker 1:Rhinox Smash some people, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I was like this is what I was waiting for, was my guy, and I don't think he probably said like two words. So I was like dude man, you're finally here.
Speaker 3:I've been waiting 20 years for you. It doesn't matter, it's, it's good.
Speaker 2:But there's also you know not to toot my own horn but there's also a character named RC, like. so I was like, oh, you know, finally, finally there's, there's, you know, having a name, my name RC, and like people are like, oh, like the cola, and like, yeah. And then there's some people out there that are just like, oh, rc, like the Transformers. I always give them like a high five. It was like, oh, dude, you know, you know you're Transformers. So I was happy to see RC finally in live action. I think she made an appearance in a Bevers movie.
Speaker 3:I think, yeah, but it was just there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i think she was like three motorcycles.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Which is what? but yeah, she's not, i don't even she says anything, but it's a good like change of pace from the Bevers. So I recently watched the first Transformers and then Revenge of the Fall. Yeah, which is like, which is like dang man. I can't believe there was three more movies after this, cause I was like I was, i was tired after Revenge of the Fall and I'm like dang man. One child above was just like screaming for two hours.
Speaker 2:So I really I really enjoyed like the human character. I like I felt his struggle. Uh, the, the main character were like him, trying to provide for his, his brother and his family and all that. So, okay, they're, they're trying, they're really trying to humanize their human counterparts. Like I know, haley Seinfeld was in Bumblebee but she did a good job And I think like, uh, this character did a good job. I don't know if you had to match him with Pete Davidson's barrage. I was like man that's, i felt like that person. Those personalities kind of clashed, right, i understand. Like, okay, and I was like you know, it's just like I can't get.
Speaker 2:You didn't even like morph Pete Davidson's voice Like I you know for for uh uh yeah, he wasn't going to use this, being himself, Like Optimus Primal was voiced by Ron Perlman And I was like, Oh dang it, I almost didn't recognize it. Of course, like you know, you get Michelle Yo for um, what was her? she was the bird.
Speaker 3:She was um air razor. Air razor, Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 2:But she has a very distinctive voice, but then you have Pete Davidson for Marash And I was like, Oh, so you just like you got him on zoom and just recorded.
Speaker 3:Dude, you know it's funny about Marash, like when he was kind of roasting Optimus. I'm like I bet this is how he really talks to his SNL cast members.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i thought the same exact thing. I was like, bro, this guy's just out here doing jokes, jokes and goofing off.
Speaker 2:Um, but like I know, like one of these days Bumblebee's got to get his voice back.
Speaker 3:That's my only major thing really about. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's just like if this is a prequel, that means he hasn't had a voice in, like if they're going, if they are leading into the Bayverse, like since the eighties, 40 years you haven't found a part for your voice yet. Um, but I did. I did see it coming Like spoilers, like they kill off Bumblebee, but I'm like, no, he ain't dead, he's in the, he's in the future movies.
Speaker 3:He can't kill. That was not surprising Yeah.
Speaker 2:I was just like here he comes, i mean they show him in the trailer, like buying him off. So I was like, okay, well, i was already spoiled by that, um, that twist. So I was like, oh, you're not going to kill off off a franchise character like that. Um, overall, i think the, the, the movie was enjoyable. I know I'm not as deep into the, uh, transformers universe, but there is oddly a synergy going on. I don't know if you guys heard about or read this latest comic which I just picked up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i mean, steven talked about it, yeah, and then he was like oh, dude boy, man I missed out dude, yeah, by uh, robert Kirkman, who, oddly enough, was part of, uh, uh, a Transformers round table, of like they were going to reboot the or like continue, like they were talking about how to continue on to Transformers universe. I think he's on the same table with, like Brian K Vaughn. I think he was in that, uh, that writer's room. But yeah, there's an odd synergy, Like dang, like Robert Kirkman just dropped the comics introducing the Hasbro universe, like Transformers and GI Joe were going to share this universe.
Speaker 2:Then you just had a movie like Transformers, riders of the Beast that just introduced GI Joe to this universe as well. So, like man, did they plan for that? Or is this just an odd coincidence that you you just happened to release a comic book in the Hasbro universe? So I don't know, but it was interesting thing. So I'm I'm curious as hell. I knew, i knew something was fishy when the main character, when he took on Mirage's armor, and then that threw me back to like the first GI Joe, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:The exo suits or whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the exo suits with Channing Tatum And I was like dang, that looks oddly familiar. And then, and then they make the reveal, like, Oh, this is actually the like GI Joe, or have an interest in you. Like dang, That's a precursor to the exo suits and that thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, cause like there's toys and comics in the anime show, like when G1 was going on in the 80s that they had suits that looked like that. So finally I was like Oh, it looks like GI Joe. but I didn't really think hardcore on it until the ending when they showed it like Oh man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Which, like when they so, having watched the beta universe, they like heavily mentioned, like the secret organization is sector seven, you know some odd, odd, odd name group. So I was like I was thinking like when the guy flipped over to Carter to say sector seven.
Speaker 3:I was.
Speaker 2:I was not expecting GI Joe, so that made me jump out of my seat. I had an audible reaction to it. I was like what? And so yeah, but you know, that was a good surprise. That was a good surprise.
Speaker 3:So you're saying you're saying 10 out of 10.
Speaker 2:I got you Yeah. So you know it was like, like you know, my, my nitpick is that it got very CGI heavy third act, you know, as as most like movies do, and that that kind of made me want to yearn for the Michael Bay action, because he does mix in like live action, like plates with CGI, that's his like.
Speaker 3:that's what he makes look so golden, to be honest.
Speaker 2:Like yeah. Yeah. So it feels like you know the. They're like when Optimus is punching a bridge and that bridge collapses, it's like dang, you actually collapsed bridge. But this one was like I think it was the third act, was very CGI heavy, which kind of took me out of it for a bit, but I, you know, i didn't other net. It's like nitpicky stuff, but I still had a good time with the movies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, like what you thought, stephen Dude, i thought it was fun, man, it was, it was, it was really. You know, it was really great to get back into the Transformers universe, man, and just kind of seeing, you know, seeing Optimus again And I was really surprised. I kind of like Pete Davidson, it kind of brought a different like vibe to it on top of like it being a period piece where it's in the 90s. I just thought he kind of like had the energy to kind of it was a nice change of pace from like Optimus is very stoic, you know low one tone voice and Maraj is kind of like just a nice, nice dynamic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for like a team, yeah, yeah for sure, and I think each, each, each Transformer had their own personality and it really just kind of it separated themselves, not just being just a Transformer, just auto bottoms, actually there you know their personality coming out. But yeah, i mean I echo the sentiments from you guys Like it was a really good movie. I'm really like I like the humans in it. Like he had some of the cheesy lines. Yeah, like it's like I told Neil this or you're talking about is like my favorite line from. I forgot what the dude's name was.
Speaker 1:Noah, noah, yeah, he's like they were, they were. They're basically telling the humans now we're gonna stay here, we got it, and Noah's like it's, like, this is my planet, i'm going. All right, he just spoke. Not the president of the United States, not the military, but a man from, from Brooklyn or from Queens or whatever I'm telling these robots, that his world and he's going, and Optimus was like Damn, i can't stop that.
Speaker 1:I guess. I guess he's riding with us, i guess. But just just that, like it's very cheesy but it's like it's not too serious and it very much is like it had a happy, it had a good balance of serious and funny. And yeah, i'm excited, man. Like I don't know when the next movie's coming out. I don't like I hope we get more news about how this GI Joe thing is gonna get out of the universe.
Speaker 3:Yeah, i think, with what they're they said so far about it is when, whenever the next sequel is going to happen, gi Joe will be like it's kind of like she like exists and they will assist them. It's not like a big universe yet I don't think they're they're attending to obviously do a GI Joe. You know, kind of do a spin off in their own thing. But I think, moving forward, they're doing, they are claiming they're going to do it in a way where it's like sprinkled slowly, not like let's just rush a universe right now. So, true, true, so I think that's what they're doing. They're just going to kind of slowly sprinkle it in, because you don't want to just put all your eggs in one basket and be like, yep, we did it. Be like doing just so, we did it. Guys, gi Joe, we're going to make a lot of money.
Speaker 1:It's all because of you guys. It's all because of you.
Speaker 3:Right away, it's coming out 2024. What So? yeah, i think they're doing it the right way, where they're going to like slowly sprinkle it too, so that's good, and that's good. But are all the.
Speaker 2:IPs in the Hasbro universe. I said she had Joe and transformers.
Speaker 3:I want to. I mean my little pony.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, here we go, the crossover You never wanted.
Speaker 2:GI Joe and my little pony.
Speaker 3:I think they lost the rights to Ram. I felt like I went back to Marvel.
Speaker 3:I'm not sure where Ram is, but I think I think Ram reverted back to Marvel, i think. So I want to say there's very like there's stuff I don't know if a lot of people heard of, like there's the micro knots and they had the rights to the microverse. That's why it's called the quantum realm in the Marvel's IP Moconauts. I'm forgetting the name of the other one, mask, and it's short for mobile armor strike command with a K. That's basically what fast and furious is, what mask is. If you know what fast and furious is, just think of that. But it would be called mask, not fast and furious. But yeah, there's not too many properties. I'm like I'm blanking on, like the big ones or the smaller ones, but it's, it's Transformers and Gio Gio and then oddball like my little pony and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:But is micro knots still is a hasbro thing, or?
Speaker 3:yeah, i think it's a hasbro thing. I don't know who has the rights in the comics, but micro knots is part of the hasbro, like umbrella, because they did like a micro knots mini series. that's part of like the Transformers, like universe in the comics.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And I was just telling. I like telling about how mask is similar to fast and furious, and then Gio, gio obviously, but yeah, i don't know too many other like I piece that like has been has, so it's not like they're going to play school. It's not like they're going to pump out all this like content of like toys no one ever heard of and just expect to make a million dollars.
Speaker 2:Power Rangers is part of Hasbro, jim, and the holograms is for Hasbro.
Speaker 3:I don't know if they have the, the movie rights.
Speaker 2:Oh really.
Speaker 3:Yeah, i don't think it's a paramount, or it might be, because I know like the show is continuing on as an ethics property. But, that'd be kind of crazy.
Speaker 1:That'd be. it's already crazy with Transformers and Gio Gio. Yeah, Like when I saw that cameo it was that actor who was he always played like. I see him play the same part, bro He was in secret agent type of guy, agent. He was in Jack Ryan, he was in House of Cards And I was just like, oh, this is the guy. I was like I was kind of happy because I'm like I know that guy That's secret agent guy.
Speaker 2:Well, good casting, Yeah, good casting.
Speaker 1:I was like damn, his, his range is that guy, just that guy. But yeah, when they introduced Gio, i was like, yeah, this is, this is gonna be cool. Like the thing is, though, they have to get Gio right Like as much as Transformers is that is that starting on the right foot? Yeah, Yeah, it's starting off the right foot. Now we just, we just got to get these this Gio thing. You know what was the last Gio movie? Was that the? was that the?
Speaker 3:rise Snake Eyes, snake Eyes. Oh, i think, guys, i didn't catch that one. Did you all catch that one? Yeah?
Speaker 2:It was very, very grounded It was like it was really just focused on the origin of Snake Eyes and Storm for Shadow and all that.
Speaker 3:I like, i like Henry Golding to have. that was a good casting, yeah.
Speaker 2:But like in terms of Gio, proper, yeah, retaliation was the.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's the one, oh, man.
Speaker 1:I saw that on Netflix and like his top 10 and I was like no, i'm not doing that, you're not. You're not catching me in that algorithm, i'm not, i'm not picking that shit, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Another movie that had potential with a lot of great actors man, yeah, chaining, do I do it. Johnson was in that movie. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. I'm like. I bet you, once you saw Transformers and saw the crazy, was like called his age and he was like bring me back, boss, bring me back. Hey, make some calls, man, let's talk. Let's talk to Michael Bay, see if I can get. I can get on this, um, this Hasbro verse. Yeah, just don't bring back chaining Tatum, that's, that's all it. Yeah, just.
Speaker 2:I don't bring back chance.
Speaker 1:Hey, wasn't Marlon Wayne's in it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he gives him the first one, ryza Cobra.
Speaker 3:And one weird cast that are casting that people forget. And Ryza Cobra Cobra, commander, is played by Joseph Gordon. Love it. Yes, people forget about that And it was pure cringe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, who's the guy Joe. Is it just like? is it just like the the squad is G I Joe. Or is it like Yeah, it's like, oh, it's like, um, like, oh, like.
Speaker 3:Who is like the person? Yeah, who's like the leader.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, the leader was Dennis Quaid's character and Channing Tatum before he got killed off. In the second one. Like he's like the like, the main, like he's like the captain America, the guy that's leading like the squad, but he's not like the head of the like. The Nick Fury of it was Dennis Quaid's character And I don't remember what happened. This character doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:I think in like the second movie they had, because Bruce Willis was in that movie.
Speaker 3:He was the OG Joe, yeah.
Speaker 2:And so it's like oh, here's the company.
Speaker 3:Yeah, who we named it after Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, so okay, So it was named after Bruce Willis, yeah.
Speaker 3:I guess he was just like you know, secret agent, you know former, you know Marine or whatever, just doing all this crazy stuff. He's pretty much like Tom Cruise, mission to possible, where he's like this dude's a badass. We know what you're going to name the York, the organization, after you do GI Joe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i was just wondering, just in case, um trying to find my way, uh trying to find uh how Chris Pratt fits in all this.
Speaker 2:He did.
Speaker 3:He's been doing a lot of war movies you know the tomorrow thing, you know be surprised. You know, just run.
Speaker 1:Won't be a son. Yeah, oh man, yeah, so I did like the actor.
Speaker 2:They, they cast a storm shadow, leave beyond the Korean actor. Oh yeah, he, i think, i think he's the only.
Speaker 3:Oh, are you talking about the, the new one, or?
Speaker 2:the, the, the old movies the Rizaco.
Speaker 3:He was, he was a badass, he was badass.
Speaker 2:I think he's the only character that didn't change in those two.
Speaker 3:I think he stayed cool, they wrote good parts about him, everything else. Yeah, yeah, no, that's So like before. Like, move on, you know, i just want to put it. Bring up two things about the Transformers rise of the beast movie. So, all right, there's an interesting theory, you know I'm I'm beating my fist down, saying this is got to be a reboot. Director says it, people love this movie. They're saying yeah, yeah, this is a reboot, makes sense.
Speaker 3:Why would you want to call it a prequel? now to kind of tie in with the whole time travel from the beast wars or from the Maximals come into the you know the, the past where Optimus Primus for refuge, like we're stuck here, we can't even. You know this is, this is our home now, to kind of tie it in in almost like a days of future past type of way. There's an interesting theory that kind of makes sense because they did this in the comics, the animated series of Netflix too.
Speaker 3:That Scourge, the bad guy of the terror cons, is a is the Michael Bay universe version of Optimus Prime, where eventually the Necron got a you know crown got a hold of Optimus, he converted him and turn him, you know, reincarnate him as Scourge, and in the comic or in the Netflix anime show, that exact thing happened, where he became like his Herald of Galactus, like he became his Silver Surfer, like I will now re, like, reincarnate you as Scourge and or Nemesis Prime, however you want to call him, and now you work for me. You're basically my lackey, and there's a. There's an interesting theory that since they traveled in time to or to the past, to you know where the Optimus, the Autobots and the Maximals are, there's a chance that Michael Bay's universe continued on. He eventually lost and became Scourge, nemesis Prime, and now he's in this new universe, but he's dead. Obviously. He died, obviously, but that's a, that's a theory people have, that Scourge is Michael Bay, optimus Prime from the future.
Speaker 2:Dang, that would be a Michael Bay thing to do. He's like.
Speaker 1:you know what? I'm going to take my Optimus Prime and to show my solidarity for y'all. Yeah, I'm going to have you kill it.
Speaker 3:So that's, that's one theory, and it kind of makes sense too. And funny enough, like in that series, the animated series, ron Perlman also voiced Optimus Primal in that series too. This is his second time being Optimus Primal.
Speaker 1:That's synergy, yeah.
Speaker 3:So I mean it makes sense because it happened before comics. You know, toyline, the series. And a second thing is that there's there's this interesting controversy in the Transformers community with Wheeljack, the Volkswagen bus or van that's at Pablo. People are so divided because his facial features, his head, looks nothing like his character And it's I don't want to say iconic, but it's a look that's that's iconic to that character. So people are really pissed off that. Why'd you, why'd you do this to my Wheeljack?
Speaker 3:People are too hardcore, like, like it's like if they change I don't know, like if Peter Parker, they made him, like they made him African American and like a iteration of somewhere, people will get upset. I'm in the camp where it's like, yeah, i would like the old Wheeljack design, but this is fine, it's a robot. Like, it's not. Like they made Optimus Prime a freaking convertible, like people are taking this too seriously. There are Transformers fans that are that hardcore about appearances. Some people even were mad about RCs, a motorcycle. Again, it's like wait, you're mad that they changed Wheeljack, but you're also mad that they didn't change RC. Like, yeah, there there's a lot of fans who are very like divided on this issue, like to a point where, like they're like no, we need to like put a petition out. I'm just like chill out guys.
Speaker 3:Like we're getting a good Transformers movies. Just get, just take the L on this one. It's fine, like it's okay. I wish Bumblebee was still a Volkswagen Beetle, but guess what? He's not, and it's. I'm fine, like just just calm down.
Speaker 2:Watch like the next movie. They'll be like why aren't there any electric vehicles? Why don't I see a Prius in there?
Speaker 1:Where's the?
Speaker 2:Tesla.
Speaker 3:Where's the Tesla? Why is?
Speaker 2:it all gas powered.
Speaker 3:I always see American cars and European cars. We're the Japanese cars. We got it. We got a petition against this movie. Yeah, we have a petition, that's just my thing There's some fans who find any little thing and they blow it up to a point where they start like harassing other people for just like, like people like me on, just I think it looks fine. You're not a real fan. Go, go, go. I think for some of them, like dang it, they would chill out.
Speaker 2:I kind of like what they did in Rise of the Beast when, like that, one van showed up.
Speaker 3:Yeah that's real Jack Yeah. Oh, that's real Jack Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then he had, like he had an accent and, like Noah started talking in Spanish. He was like I don't know Spanish And he's like dang, that's racist. I was like dang that's that's the commentary on all the Michael Bay stuff when they like they had the other vehicles to have accents and nationalities.
Speaker 3:And we're just like yes, kind of racist. It's funny, though, because, like there's a lot of like Latino fans here are like they're happy about Wheeljack having a Latino voice.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's cool man.
Speaker 3:We dig it, so I mean they're just robots, They're just giving them personalities. It's not like they're doing thing. They're not. It's not like they're doing things stereotypical, They're just having a similar accent.
Speaker 1:So yeah, nothing too crazy to go go apeshit about, yeah.
Speaker 3:But overall, you know, like we all said, just a good action movie. It's fun. It's not perfect, but compared to what we got in the past, i mean, come on, how can you, how can you not like the movie? Yeah, no style of buff Perfect, just give me. Anthony.
Speaker 1:Not yet. Yeah, and it's a slim 90 minute movie.
Speaker 2:Oh no, so you just like trim the fat? Just give me what, just give me the steak.
Speaker 1:Right, hey, megan Fox is ready to make a comeback.
Speaker 3:Oh dude, i just saw the.
Speaker 1:I just saw the Expendables 4 trailer and I was like bruh she's ready to be in GI Joe.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she's in it. Yeah, she's ready to be in.
Speaker 1:GI Joe. Let me just. this is her audition for GI Joe. No dude, no, that's it.
Speaker 2:I'm not the.
Speaker 1:I'm not the Babe who fixes cars anymore. I kill. I kill aliens. I'm like all right, cool, but yeah, all right guys. So yeah, like let's, let's wrap it up here. We got some more movies on the pipeline. Give me, okay, neil, give me one movie that you're excited about going forward.
Speaker 3:So many good ones coming out too, and like my mind's blanking on the animated stuff and that anime shows coming out too, but just one film that has been ever since the teaser trailer came out, i just been obsessed with wanting to see how they're going to do this is Oppenheimer, just because it's such a historical event. This is the making of a nuclear weapon. This is like this changed. This did change the world, like they said in the trailer, and just the way like they cut up the trailer, which is like it's so suspenseful and tense from like man, so I'm excited for that. There's a huge cast in that movie, so that's the one I'm looking forward to, and if you want a palette cleanser that movie is too intense Go watch Barbe. It comes out the same weekend, yeah same weekend.
Speaker 1:Do it back to back, man, do it back to back.
Speaker 3:Neapalic cleanser. you can watch Barbe afterwards, yeah. But yeah, oppenheimer for me is the one. most Obviously the other ones too, but if I were to pick one style, how about you, Arsie?
Speaker 1:What's the most anticipated movie so far?
Speaker 2:So I'm excited for Indiana Jones, a Doll of Destiny. I know this is like Harrison Ford's swan song for it, but like you know, i grew up in Indiana Jones. I love, I love the move. Besides number four, i love the other thing. I love one, two and three Me, you know what. The one with Shilah Buff in it? Yeah, and him swinging with monkeys. If it's on TV, on like TNT, i'll probably watch it.
Speaker 3:I'll put it on you while you're doing chores.
Speaker 2:I'll just watch the Harrison Ford parts, but like Mission Impossible, dead Reckoning part one that's high on my list That's nothing to get man. This like the Tom Cruise like because this was supposed to be released earlier. Like Tom Cruise worked his magic, just like with Top Gun Maverick He pushed it back and now Top Gun Maverick's like made a billion and a half dollars. Same thing with Mission Impossible He pushed it back a year because of COVID And I hope it's worth the wait. You know I'm excited for it, the fact that you have two parts. And then I think they said that they might even still continue it after the second part. Oh, tom Cruise still got some gas and all that stuff.
Speaker 3:I thought they were saying they might continue it without him.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I mean, they have the cast, it's huge. They might set up one of the other characters to continue on or spin it off somehow. Oppenheimer, i'm excited, for I have my ticket for Barbie, don't judge. I'm also excited for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Me and Mayhem, because that has a different art style Yeah, it's a good cast set in like no-transcript.
Speaker 2:Well, i mean, i know Seth Rogen has like is kind of divisive in like his, his projects, but like when he commits to something like invincible and and some other, some other projects and I think it's going to be fun, like trailer looks fun and all that Is that underrated producer, dude, Honest producer. He does some like. I think he's a producer on The Boys And so he's he and writer too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and a writer, and so he does some good stuff when he puts his mind to it, like. so I'm kind of interested in this. Yeah, there's. There's just a lot.
Speaker 1:He has named all the movies.
Speaker 2:Even the movies that don't like, don't aren't high on the radar. I was like dang, i'll still, i'll still check that out.
Speaker 1:Hey, are you going to watch asteroid city?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've. I've been watching Wes Anderson movies.
Speaker 1:Okay, i know, i know that's in your, that's in your wheelhouse too.
Speaker 2:So Yeah, that that that came out this weekend. Oh, this was this weekend.
Speaker 3:How did I Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2:it came out this weekend, and so I'm yeah, i'm going to watch it on Tuesday. So I'm, tuesday is a double, double day for me, so I'm watching the flash and then asteroid city. Afterwards, six dollars, huh. Then maybe for that time I'll check out the Jennifer Lawrence No hard feelings. Oh yeah, yeah. A lot of movies to watch, a lot of movies man Like I said, I live at the movie theater. It's my second home.
Speaker 1:And platinum status.
Speaker 2:So yeah, platinum status.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i mean, do they? do they call you by your first name over there? yet, dude, arcy, you're back.
Speaker 2:I feel weird sometimes, cause like when I come out of a movie and then I literally go out the door and then come back in and like, hi, hello, it's me again.
Speaker 3:Let me ask you guys there's a few experienced this cause, like I there's. So there's so many movies that come out. There's sometimes where, like I catch it by myself and I like doing that is there's been times when it'll be like a movie's been out for like two weeks already, people have already seen it or it's not that widely like known. I go to the theater, sit down, pick my seat or like I reserve it and then like there's a dude that's like almost next to me, like you could have picked anywhere else. Yeah, it's literally just us two here and you're like two seats next to me.
Speaker 2:Yep, i've had that. I've literally had that happen to me, or it's just like I could see it on the map of the seating chart everywhere. And yeah, and like you guys know me, i sit in a very specific spot in the movie here, and the fact that there, that seat right next to me was taken.
Speaker 2:I was like dude, i'm going to be that guy, i'm just going to sit somewhere else. I'm just like dude. You just like why, why would you do that to me? Yeah, yeah, i was like you know, i sat in the same row and I would like peek over and the guy was like on his phone. I'm like dude, why'd you even come to a movie theater? That's my biggest pet peeve. You have your phone on during the movie. I'm just like you didn't even turn the brightness down.
Speaker 2:I can still see you, i can still see you. I can still see you, i can see your face. I'm like, dude, at least turn your brightness down. So if I sat next to that person, like I don't know what this this guy was thinking when he chose the seat next to me, but I'm like, if he sat next to me and, god forbid, i stayed and he had the brightness on, i'll like, dude, i'm out of there. I'm just like I know I paid like 10 bucks for this movie Like I'm out of here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it would probably even worse if it was like XD, like it was in the big theater, oh man. And then like there's like only like a couple of people and you're like, really, i had this whole road of myself and you picked the seat right next to me on a row of like 20 seats. Yeah, i was like come on, man, like I know, i know we're all about the view and just how you view the screen, but like can't move two seats to the left or two seats to the right.
Speaker 3:Right Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that sucks, but yeah, what are?
Speaker 3:you looking for What's like yeah, what's the one for you? Oh it's.
Speaker 1:It's Mission Impossible. It's Mission Impossible Like I'm. I'm ready to see Tom Cruise run a marathon in the whole movie. Like, literally, the trailer was him. Like I think half the trailer was him running.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm like it's just him running.
Speaker 1:Fighting, driving and yeah, and then driving and then talking and then running again, like it's just, it's going to be a tour or falling or falling, or just like Tom Cruise man, he's, he's, he's, he's doing it one more time hopefully, and it's our annual Ving Reims man.
Speaker 1:I see Ving Reims again. It's like seeing old pal on Christmas and say, hey, man, it's been a while, what's up to? And then he's just, you know, part of the crew. So yeah, i'm excited about Mission Impossible. It's a lot of I know there was a lot of news on that movie like there were a lot of like reshoots, a lot of like he's like fighting with, like the movie theaters, like, hey, i want all the big screens, cause you need this Oppenheimer's taking them all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was like.
Speaker 1:I need all the XD Dolby screens because you need to see me run in the most crispest crisp way possible And then with high high, you know, high daffy or whatever, forte, whatever. But yeah, i'm, i'm excited about that. I mean, all the other movies I'm I'm going to definitely see Barbie, oppenheimer in D-Box.
Speaker 3:That's like that's like the guilty pleasure.
Speaker 2:We're just like yeah, we're one ticket to Barbie.
Speaker 3:I just want to see what's going on. I just want to see. I'm curious, Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's in the trailer. If you love Barbie, if you hate Barbie, you'll like this movie, and it's. It's a. A Simone Lou's going to be in there.
Speaker 3:Oh, yes, right, he's one of the cans.
Speaker 1:I want to see some like Shang-Chi Ten Rings. I'm just kidding, i'm like see what he does. It's a pretty good cast. I like I'm curious. And they have Wolf Fairwell in there. I was like a bad guy, i'm like perfect.
Speaker 3:Yeah, things like the CEO or something, yeah.
Speaker 1:He's like get that Barbie. I was like, yep, that's all I need, punch my ticket in, i'm good, so yeah.
Speaker 3:It's just like a fun movie.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's that's yeah, yeah, super fun movie. So I mean you know we're probably going to have to do another three hour podcast on a on July's movies.
Speaker 3:It's been like in the making, it's been a while, So it's like, yeah, we, we got to. are you splitting this in two parts?
Speaker 1:Uh, could be. I'll see how my editing is going to be, but if you listen this far, three hours into this mega podcast.
Speaker 2:congratulations We'll send you we'll send you something.
Speaker 3:We'll send you a no prize, Stanley.
Speaker 2:no prize.
Speaker 3:I'm sending you a thumbs up? Yeah, a thumbs up emoji. That's what you'll be doing.
Speaker 2:You literally could have driven all the way to Orlando and we'd still be talking at this point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is like a Tampa drive. This is more like a Tampa drive.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:St Pete type stuff, yeah, but yeah, dude, it was. It was really great chopping it up with you guys again. Hopefully we'll do another episode because we got more movies to review. I think that's like the that's going to be the theme of these next couple podcasts. It's just just because of how much movies are coming out, how much good quality movies these aren't, these are movies that are just like. You know, maybe I'll see it, this is like must see movies and I'm excited. I mean, we got another month ahead of us. Um, so, yeah, uh, appreciate you guys coming on, talking, talking some movies, just chopping it up. It's been a while, but hopefully we can keep the podcast episodes coming And uh, yeah, so, uh, thank you guys for listening and we will talk to you all next time. See you, bye.